mitt romney's gain in the polls following a strong showing. there seem to be something of a theme there, jim. i heard the word liar time and time again. is that what happens what happens? >> it's like a sports game. we were robbed. those were democratic partisans doing the talking. i think the story of that few days before the biden debate was the fuss in the media. andy sullivan was practically on the ledge looking down. jon stewart said obama doesn't want to win. and nora at media, she called it the media has stopped filling in the blank. obama campaign spinners can go up there and call romney a liar. media at least for that period before biden rallied them were saying, look, you are on your own pal. >> jon: but when an old hand like bob here is says, are you saying -- bob schieffer says isn't that kind a gift or punt this? >> you can assume he was so stunned by what he heard axelrod say. for he for a moment didn't know how he would follow up. what we're really seeing is two narratives here. one, we're going to go after them by demeaning the